I love Dubai also for mineral B you know I am heavily biased I will always tell people if this is a pan to buy without question uh one of the two Brands made of France I love them
De Buyer carbon steel pan vs Matfer carbon steel pan
The De Buyer carbon steel pan and the Matfer carbon steel pan, shown the same way from the same evidence rules. There is no verdict at the bottom. The axes below are separate measurements and the objections are listed in full for both.
De Buyer carbon steel pan
78 quoted claims about the De Buyer carbon steel pan from 9 voices.
Domain authority
9 recommenders, weighted by demonstrated expertise in carbon steel pans. Weighted by expertise in this category, never by audience size.
Independent consensus
9 independent voices across 15 sources. How many independent voices converge, unweighted.
Long-term ownership
1 dated ownership report, median 10 years. Volume and length of dated first-hand ownership reports.
Performance
38 performance claims. Claims about how well it does the job.
Value
7 claims about price relative to what it does. Claims about what it costs relative to what it does.
Repairability
no repairability claims yet. Claims about whether it can be maintained or rebuilt.
Community breadth
2 distinct communities. How many distinct communities converge, rather than one echo chamber.
Recency of evidence
most recent evidence from 2026. How recent the evidence is. Old evidence is not wrong, just older.
Objections raised
22 negative claims, mostly use case fit and durability. How much complaint is on the record. A high figure means the drawbacks have been stated and quoted, not that the thing is worse.
These are separate measurements, not components of a score. They are never added together, and there is no overall rating, because which of them matters depends on what you are buying the thing for. An axis that says no evidence means nobody has spoken about it, not that the answer is low.
These pans are forever pans. These will last your the rest of your life, your children's and your grandchildren's because I can testify to that since I own my grandmother's crepe pan.
Cites durability, scratch resistance
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one of the things that I love about these pans is, I mean, these are steel. These are just a solid hunk of steel. This is what we used to make armor out of. So, you know, you can't destroy them. You don't have to use special soft implements. You can use steel um spatulas. Doesn't really matter cuz these will take…
de Buyer Mineral B Pro had the best heat retention of the group and a comfortable stainless steel handle.
Cites handle, heat retention
Mineral B Pro is heavy, but it retains heat the best.
Cites heat retention, weight (against)
I really enjoy using a high-end French made predominantly carbon steel pan and they come non-seasoned they are smooth to the finish and mostly I'm talking about Dubai and Matt fur these are pens in which I have not been able to find any equivalent
Two judgements rest on this sentence:
- best in class Owns it
- appearance Owns it cites surface finish
So, these are a long-term investment.
Cites durability, price
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by comparison to say a multi-layer stainless steel pan, those go in the, you know, hundreds of dollars for a quality stainless steel with layering in it to distribute the heat. So that I find that they're a very good value proposition.
Um, and these just are at a a lower price point. They're about 30% lower price point.
a great value. And whatever you buy in this line is going to last you your whole life, your children's lives, whatever. It's a real great investment.
is sort of that perfect balance between value and a great pan.
de Buyer Mineral B Pro is heavier and heats slower than Strata, but it didn't warp, made minimal noise, and retained heat longer than any other carbon steel pan I tested.
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- supports performance Tested it cites heat retention, noise, surface finish
- supports durability Tested it cites warp resistance
- objects performance Tested it cites heating speed (against)
- objects handling Tested it cites weight (against)
de Buyer Blue carbon steel performs well on gas and electric, but because of its thin construction, it warped significantly on induction.
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- objects durability Tested it cites warp resistance (against)
- supports performance Tested it
Even before my warp test, the bottom was concave, but it got much worse after I heated it.
I would start with this guy right here this is an 11in deuer mineral B pro carbon steel this is an easy can't go wrong decision
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the buyer mineral B is my favorite pan so for those of you that want a straight up answer to which one I personally like more there you have it the video is over the mineral B wins
he decided to give the buyer a try and instantly understood what I meant even with the seasoning process I think
I think in my head I'm thinking this pan is going to work a lot like my favorite mineral B duboet pan
Because of this, you can't use this pan for roasting or broiling, and you can't season it in the oven.
Cites oven safe (against)
The De Buyer Blue Carbon Steel pan gives you great performance at a more reasonable price.
Cites price
Brands like Matfer Bourgeat, made in France since 1814, and De Buyer still forge their pans from a single sheet of steel with no coatings, no rivets, and no weak points.
Cites build quality
It's a solid, affordable option, but don't buy it if you have an induction cooktop because it warped in my induction tests.
Cites induction compatible (against)
It performed great in the egg test, and it's one of the best values.
Cites non-stick surface, price
they are a great pen. They're just like the Mineral Beast. Same carbon steel, same weight. The big difference being the stainless steel handle.
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you want to cook. And the Mineral B Pro, I would say if you can afford the extra money, I would go for it.
first off, all three of them, including the La Leon line, cook quite evenly. I was quite surprised.
Cites even heating, non-stick surface
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had achieved some browning, we were able to just pick them up and flip them over. Nothing stuck to the pan whatsoever. So that was impressive. Even with just an initial seasoning, they released absolutely beautiful.
And we did grilled cheese and spelt like cheese into the pans and, you know, sort of cooked on um cheddar and griier cheese just popped right off the pan, no problem.
So that's our impression of the overall choice of lineups in the Duboet carbon steel pans. They all cook absolutely beautifully.
They release food once it's once you've got a sear on. It releases perfectly. and they are an absolute joy to cook with.
you can get it hot very, very quickly, sear your meats or your fish or chicken, whatever it is you want to do, and then if you want to continue cooking or make a sauce or do something like that, you can reduce the heat and the temperature in the pan drops very quickly.
Cites even heating, heat control, heating speed, non-stick surface
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Um, but for just regular, you know, for what these are for, which is frying, they're absolutely excellent.
and wine reductions and all kinds of things in these pans and no problem whatsoever.
This being stainless steel can go into the oven. You can cook the whole dish in the oven.
Cites handle, maintenance, oven safe, versatility
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pans all at the same time. So that's a [clears throat] convenient uh convenient aspect of the Mineral B pro.
But it was absolutely no problem. I just took a little bit of oil on a on a rag, wiped it into the pan, heated the pan up on the stove again, got it smoking, and it came right back to a nice brown seasoned coat.
And that allows you to put these pans in the oven or under the broiler. If you want to finish, say you're cooking a filt of fish and you want to finish it under a broiler, you can stick these under there. No problem.
I like the versatility of being able to start thing on a something on a stove top and finish it in the oven without having to worry about the temperature or the time.
we really love them and we do most of our cooking in them.
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But if you want a thicker, heavier and quicker pan that retains heat well, go with de Buyer Mineral B Pro.
Cites heating speed, heat retention, weight
not like to buy air in the the mineral B that comes with a beeswax coating that comes off really easily and actually helps with the seasoning process process Matt fur was problematic
Cites coating, ease of cleaning
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of course you know I am a big fan of of the mineral B pen they work extremely well
very versatile pan it works on on gas cooktops electric cooktops induction cooktops and with this stainless steel handle also can go into the oven so very versatile there
Cites induction compatible, oven safe, stovetop compatibility, versatility, weight
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also a good Jack of all trade size big enough for a riye yet you can still do omelets and eggs in this guy as well this one at 11 in is still a manageable size for maneuverability right at 5 lbs for this guy
both pans have zero issues there's no warping although that has a lot to do more with improper use or user error the rivets are sturdy the handles are perfect with no signs of giving out and the seasoning has been great they really have treated me really really good for the last five ten years or so
Cites build quality, warp resistance
I have the 11 inch model which I find perfect for two people
Two judgements rest on this sentence:
- supports use-case fit Owns it cites oven safe, size and capacity
- notes ownership Owns it
the buyer was going to be more of a personal everyday Pan
I've had no issues at all since I've done that and it works just like the mat for in the oven or the broiler now
with the the buyer I feel it's similar enough to cast iron that it's totally replaced cast iron for me
if I didn't own the buyer and only had the mat for I would still feel the need to own a cast iron pan but if it was the other way around the buyer would fill in that cast iron need for me
I've got an 11in mineral B duboet. Tremendous pan to compare.
Cites build quality
And thanks to its hollow design and heat-dispersing cutout, this handle stayed cooler than all the other ones I tested.
Cites ergonomics
so these are keeping both of these I know that already a seven inch and a nine inch I think this is Adebayor and this is a mat for bourgeois carbon steel pans
I'm here to tell you that it's actually not a very big deal and at a high level all we're going to do is remove that rust reason the pan
Cites maintenance
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when it comes to buying a pan within the price range if you could buy a French made pan for the same price then I wouldn't probably choose a lodge I would buy Dubai or buy my fur
Cites price
And I must say, I really like the sort of aesthetic and feel of the stainless steel handles. They have a really nice heft in the hand, and I love the little embossed bee, you know, sort of cast right into the handle. It's very pretty.
Cites handle
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the handle is lower. So the handle ends up being quite a bit lower on the Mineral B Pro. And she really appreciated that because she finds that the handles on the Mineral B are a little bit tall for her to try and reach and manipulate the [music] pan.
6 6 lb 1 oz. It It is definitely a heavy pen.
Cites handle (against), weight (against)
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it's also really pretty, I must say. And I love that it's got a pretty little bee um, uh, right on the handle.
Cites appearance, handle
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Um I love the look of this the uh Deboy uh Mineral B Pro. The stainless steel handle is really pretty.
emerged with a beautiful bronze coat on it that looked really pretty. It was extremely uniform and you know will continue to develop as you cook more and more on it.
And the one we use the most often is this sort of 12 1/2 in pan. Seems to cover a wide range
Cites availability, versatility
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widest range of sizes. These frying pans go from like a little 4 and 1/2 in individual egg or pancake pan, which is really cute, up to a big monster 14-in pan. Um, if you're cooking for a real crowd, which we have it, and we we do use it fairly often.
It feels like a cast iron pan but with a smoother surface and longer, cooler handle.
Cites handle, heat resistance
Then, they recommend adding what they describe as a "thin layer" of oil. However, their instructional video shows them using far more oil than I expected—probably close to a half cup.
Cites maintenance (against)
After the pan cooled, I wiped away all the oil and heated the pan again for 2 minutes to dry any remaining moisture. Sure enough, after cooling, the pan was sticky and gummy.
it's also really pricey it comes in at 90 dollars currently which is a heck of a lot more money than I paid for years ago at sixty five dollars
Cites price (against)
I love how this thing performs and it feels
Cites maintenance, weight
the the buyer was a lot easier to season for some reason in my opinion
that's where I personally stand that the buyer is heavier and it has some of that weight and density to it even now compared to the larger mat for 12 inch plus Pan
the buyers still really Hefty but it's still lighter than an equivalent cast iron pan with the same size
this pan can be used for anything it's completely oven safe and Broiler safe unlike the buyer mineral B with that stupid coating on the handle
Cites handle (against), oven safe (against)
the buyer does have cons and it's related to the mineral B model and the coated handle which limits its use in the oven to 400 degrees Fahrenheit at no more than 10 minutes or so
but up front I just have to say that both pans are amazing and you really can't go wrong with either or
de Buyer Blue Carbon Steel is thinner and lighter, so it doesn't hold heat as well, but it heats up fast.
Cites heating speed, heat retention (against), weight
It's heavy, and the seasoning doesn't adhere well to the slick surface at first, but it performed well across every test.
Cites seasoning durability (against), weight (against)
don't let this sit hours don't let it sit overnight 5 10 minutes or so works just fine
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for what they call surface rust or Flash rust uh light rust problem you'll actually often find that you can wipe it out with a paper towel or it washes right out with a scrubby sponge in dish soap
Cites ease of cleaning
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what I do is level up a little bit I like to use a mildly abrasive cleaner something like a bar Keeper's Friend
add some water and some white vinegar and let that sit 5 10 minutes or so
we'll have that pan back up and cooking in 10 or 15 minutes or so
Cites maintenance
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for each of the pans I showed in this video um I started out with a rusty pan I removed the rust washed the pan dried it reasoned it and had the pan back up in cooking in 15 minutes or less for each of them not too bad
some of these pans for example this divider pan has a coated handle but that coated handle can't go in the oven for more than ten minutes
Cites oven safe (against)
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these pans they're very heavy they're solid you've got strong handles good quality
Cites build quality, handle
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So we browned them and then delazed with shaing Chinese wine and that actually did peel some of the seasoning off of the mineral B pro.
Cites seasoning durability (against)
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Even this one still weighs in at 4 lb 13, almost 5 lb. So, they're definitely they're not a lightweight pen, the Mineral B.
Cites weight (against)
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This coating on the handle means that they can only go into the oven at 400°
Cites handle (against), oven safe (against)
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Fahrenheit or less for about 10 minutes at maximum. Now, we put these in the oven fairly frequently cuz we'll finish off a steak or something like that. Um, but [music] they're not made for extensive oven use.
so it's not like the the buyer mineral B that I have seasoned in the oven but the epoxy handle you can get blistering in the oven too you need to be very very careful with that the mat for no problem
Cites handle (against), heat resistance (against)
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the coated handle it would be damaged by the high heat and length of time in an oven seasoning so you want to go with the oven safe Pro handle
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the regular series mineral bees have a coated strip style handle with a decorative Medallion uh very nice tactile feel to it and I think they look really nice
Cites appearance, handle
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I seasoned My Pan in the oven for about an hour and the coating on the handle actually just burnt off and the rubber B logo fell off
Cites coating durability (against)
Most carbon steel skillets have oven-safe handles, but some, like De Buyer Mineral B, have epoxy coated handles that are only safe in the oven for short periods.
Cites oven safe (against)
So I know how the dubay is going to work. I've cooked lots of crepes in it and I have a crepe pan specifically. I know how dubet does that.
Cites versatility
is what this pan looked like before and then after soaking in standing water for 24 hours
Cites rust resistance (against), seasoning durability (against)
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the first time you see rust on one of your fancy deuer carbon Steels it can lead to a feeling of panic
notice that a lot of the seasoning has come off of this pan it's okay we're going to reason it again here in just a few minutes
so I know someone is going to ask which is the better pan between divine matte fir and mafia I would not pick a winner
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But as I said, much lighter than a um cast iron pan.
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These are 3 mm thick. The La Leon is I'll consult my notes so I get it right. 1.2 mm thick.
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It's the same pan as the Mineral B Pro. Same thickness of metal, uh, same carbon steel. It's all, you know, 100% iron, one per, sorry, 99% iron, 1% carbon. [snorts] Um, so they're identical in terms of cooking.
And this pan is essentially the exact same pan as the mineral B. The difference being it has a stainless steel handle.
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potentially rust cuz this is just a base [music] steel. So, we have to season it.
Cites maintenance (against), rust resistance (against)
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Now, all of the pans that we have are in the Mineral B line, which is their sort of mid-range line of carbon steel pans.
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And what can I say? We have a bunch of them. We use them all the time.
normally I don't have any Rusty carbon steel pans I take meticulous care of my cookware
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what I did was take four of my deuer carbon Steels and as much as it pains me to say this I rusted them on purpose
because I already have matfer into by air carbon steel pans
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Now, the Mineral B Pro, um, they don't have as wide a range of pens as the main Mineral B line. Uh, they come from 8 to 12 1/2 in.
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11in Mineral B Pro is $115 and the 12 in La Leonese is $55.
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comes in at 95 at $95. So, the 11in Mineral B is $95.
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we are comparing it to a many old I don't know, probably had this for 10 years. uh 11in Dubai Mineral B.
Owned 10 years
Matfer carbon steel pan
63 quoted claims about the Matfer carbon steel pan from 11 voices.
Domain authority
10 recommenders, weighted by demonstrated expertise in carbon steel pans. Weighted by expertise in this category, never by audience size.
Independent consensus
10 independent voices across 17 sources. How many independent voices converge, unweighted.
Long-term ownership
2 dated ownership reports, median 3 years. Volume and length of dated first-hand ownership reports.
Performance
22 performance claims. Claims about how well it does the job.
Value
4 claims about price relative to what it does. Claims about what it costs relative to what it does.
Repairability
no repairability claims yet. Claims about whether it can be maintained or rebuilt.
Community breadth
2 distinct communities. How many distinct communities converge, rather than one echo chamber.
Recency of evidence
most recent evidence from 2026. How recent the evidence is. Old evidence is not wrong, just older.
Objections raised
20 negative claims, mostly reliability and recommendation, 1 of them someone who stopped using it. How much complaint is on the record. A high figure means the drawbacks have been stated and quoted, not that the thing is worse.
These are separate measurements, not components of a score. They are never added together, and there is no overall rating, because which of them matters depends on what you are buying the thing for. An axis that says no evidence means nobody has spoken about it, not that the answer is low.
so you know Matt fur I would give you know a big big thumbs up I think they're tremendous I love that they have non-vivided handles onto the pans the shape of them of course are ideal I really enjoy that they the handles don't have epoxy on them and they can easily just go straight into the oven they're great
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really happy with these map for pans I would say to me for good carbon steel that's a 10 out of 10. I would highly highly recommend them
Matt fur makes sense if you love no rivets awesome
The two pans I don't recommend are Matfer because of the ongoing recall situation and De Buyer Mineral B because of its limitations while cooking in the oven.
Cites safety (against)
Don't buy this frying pan unless you have a gas stovetop. This wobble here, that's a big deal on a flat stovetop. If you have a flat stovetop like mine, absolutely don't buy this pan. If you have coils, I still wouldn't do it.
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- recommendation Tested it cites stovetop compatibility (against)
- use-case fit Tested it cites stovetop compatibility (against)
I loved this pan so much that when I was testing it, before I was even done, I was like, "I want this pan," and I ordered one for myself, which I never do. So I've had mine for several years and I love it. I cook in it all the time.
We tested eight pans, and believe me, they were not all good. Some of them were real clunky, some really just never took to seasoning. They had sides that were too high, really off in balance. They just were not worth it. This one's our favorite. It's Matfer Bourgeat 11 7/8-inch Black Steel Frying Pan.
This pan passed France's national safety standards, but regional regulators found that the pan released excessive levels of arsenic, chromium, and iron when cooked in a highly acidic solution for 2 hours.
Cites safety (against)
once you build up that seasoning after a couple cooks it is gonna be perfect for eggs this is actually the the you know ultimate egg pan it's what I use mine for the majority of the time
Cites non-stick surface
I love this pen with time it became really nonstick and it makes a fabulous omelette
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and if this is a pan that gets you out of non-stick then my job's done so that's why I'm telling you about these pants today
Cites induction compatible
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if you're on induction I'm leaning this way you know even though I'm a mineral B seller I sell the product this if I'm going to sell something in the future is the way I'm going to go for induction because this is proving itself as the right pan for induction
they now are putting into a plastic bag and coming with a little moisture absorbent um little pillow inside to allow you to get a pan that is basically raw from the factory so seasoning should be a lot easier
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and the thing that's great with the matte fur is that the handle can go into whatever temperature into the oven we want
it now is kind of kind of turned like a golden orange color because it's oxidizing a little bit so it's very obvious that that pan is being exposed the raw metal is being exposed to the air
and now the new matte fur come without anything on them they're really nice and easy to clean
but this guy is definitely you know non-stick on there there's no doubt about that right
so looking at these two pans we've got that this was the first time that I ever cooked on them you know that you know nothing's really stuck on here
this guy here behaved a lot better in being at a preheat of 250 previously like I was saying I was at 250 preheat it looked like I got too hot I went down it got too cool and it wasn't a great result this guy's looking quite perfect at the moment sitting at 250
so that's a really nice result right there doing its thing induction burner gets a little bit mad when you do that this guy here same thing so great result okay so definitely that factor of that first cook with a new pan you know seedling that surface definitely helps so our second result here is really great
right now there is zero spinning from this is the one that was abused this is the one that was not and they are not spinning whatsoever
okay so clean and cool cool zero spinning so that is great that cheap what I think is kind of crappy induction cooktop I have been able to make spinners out of other carbon steel with that cooktop um it does make spinners these guys didn't that's a tremendous result so super stoked
But one brand recently made headlines for the wrong reasons. Matfer Black Carbon Steel pans were recalled in a region of France after testing showed high levels of arsenic, chromium, and iron when the pan was used to boil a highly acidic solution for 2 hours.
It also really took to seasoning well. It basically got seasoned and kept getting more and more non-stick. Some of the other pans seemed to really take a step back occasionally. You'd go through the whole seasoning process, cook something, and it would just come up. This really just kept building.
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but for some reason sambal completely wrecked my pan about six months ago and i had to restart so that is definitely one i would advise you watch out for
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it seems that the best way to season a new map for pan is to kind of ignore some of the new seasoning directions and go back to what we know works go back to the old seasoning directions scrub the heck out of the pan make sure there is no no coating left on there then use the peels of two potatoes two thirds cup of…
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the old directions were very precise about that now for the updated pans you still need to use potato peels oil and salt but the directions are a little bit more ambiguous there's a little bit more wiggle room here they're not nearly as precise
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this video has pretty much gone off the rails at this point uh midway through the seasoning i noticed things looked like they were sticking the potato peels the oil the salt it just seemed to be sticking i didn't know if it had to do with the amounts and i went through that second round of it it was sticking again and…
it looks like these pans are indeed coated coated now i was told by maffer that the reason for these bags is that they protected the pans and there was no need to apply any coating at the factory that's what they told me now i bought my pans myself use my own money i did get to buy early models so i've got an email…
went back to the old way and just scrubbed the heck out of this pan for about 15 minutes i could see what looked like some coating on there and i didn't think there was going to be coating at first but there's coating on there
it came out the oven just fine and we put it on the burner did the fried egg test and it passed the first time so this method absolutely works to get a good seasoning on your pan
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I think this pan is pretty much just going to get greased up and stuck in a cabinet somewhere because it's useless on this flat stove top.
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I was going to complain about it afterwards and how I don't like the pan and how it hasn't been worth it so far.
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This is the most expensive pan I've ever had in my life. And I've done technique after technique after technique that I found on the internet, and nothing works.
I've got a $55 frying pan that my mama gave me for Christmas that is useless. I would have rather had something else that cost $55.
One other factor that was important with skillets, especially ones that you're gonna be searing in and that you might be baking in or cooking in, is rivets, the way the handle is attached to the pan. A lot of them had big, lumpy rivets, and they actually acquired a lot of schmutz, basically. This is nice and smooth.…
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There are several things that we really loved about this pan and one is you want some space to cook. This is 12 inches or 11 7/8 rim to rim and that's how they measure it. Then, the sides come down, and some of these tapered down like a wok to this little tiny space at the bottom. This one gives you a good broad…
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Finally, the angle of the handle, this goes up a little bit. A lot of European pans do that. They tend to angle up. American pans, for whatever reason, tend to go flat. This is a French pan. It is angled up a little bit, but not so high that it was hard to get into the oven. When we were making tarte Tatin, you start…
these older models came with a thick hard to remove coating protected the pans in the shipping process the first thing you always had to do was just scrub the heck out of that thing with a brush dish soap hot water it took about 15 minutes or so of scrubbing you don't have to do that anymore so that is a big deal…
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there's nothing wrong with the pan there's nothing wrong with the seasoning you're simply cooking at the wrong temperature now if you're moving over from like i said from a non-stick nobody really tells you and nothing sticks in your nonstick pan anyway but you gotta change up the way you do things a little bit when…
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I also find not using any acidity really annoying say I roasted some veggies I need to get them out of the pan before giving them a squirt of lemon juice or a drizzle of pomegranate molasses and that's just not the same thing I want that lemon juice to sizzle and reduce lightly if I get the mat with the pan first the…
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as far as the size goes go slightly bigger than you think you need because the sides on the mat for Skillets are very sloped this means that you get slightly less cooking area than you would in a similar sized pan that's stainless or Teflon
the sizes of the pens listed in their description are lip to lip that's not just for carbon steel that's for all cookware the slip to lip measurement doesn't tell you much about the size of the actual cooking surface for example this nine and a half inch mat for carbon steel pen has a six and a quarter inch cooking…
this pan already cooks non-stick no problem and yours should too if you're using it properly
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i bought it in april it's now january so after a few mishaps there's been about six months in between this being a stripped silver pan and now being completely black
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Owned 9 months
i have a new larger style mat for carbon steel pan here that i got for christmas and i've used about less than 10 times and you can already see the seasoning is developing on it
this guy as we know was the one that got overly preheated at the beginning so it looked like it had like damage but it's not damaged it has discoloration in the middle
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the map were performed on par with the traditional cast-iron skillet we could tell any difference in the results of the Agra from either both right up very very well
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I tried the new pan again I made salmon croquettes and look no sticky so that tells me a couple of things hey she's enjoying the new pan and that's saying something from a cast-iron traditionalist
now my mother's case she followed the mat for directions to a tee she used the potato peels salt and oil method and cook those twice and as matter of fact she ended up cooking them for like an hour and a half and at the end of the hour and a half the pan still had not changed color she had a spot of seasoning in the…
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this is a great pan that could be used for anything before you try to fry some eggs in it
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As you can see, the egg is not sticking to this well-seasoned pan at all.
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This is supposed to be better than cast iron. It's lighter. It's more versatile. It's uh easier to cure. Those are all the things that people are saying. And I don't know what the heck they're talking about because that's not my experience at all.
The first pan we received had so much wobble we sent it back because we thought something was wrong. This one has less wobble. And then we looked up and we found out that that's normal. There's a little play in it, and the bottom's not perfectly flat.
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It's going to come off. It's I mean, it's You can see it moving there. Can you see how that that stuff's moving around? It's going to come off pretty easily. But you can see under where that is the the markings where it's not slick black anymore. All that's in the surface, these little lines and stuff. Almost…
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this has already happened to me in the past few weeks, a spot of cheese got stuck in there and didn't want to come out. I had to get so aggressive with that spot that when it did come up, all of the black came up with it. And then you have to re-season to try to replace that bare spot, or that's going to be a spot…
It's still sticking over there. It's stuck there. It's stuck there. The bottom of the pan is completely black. It's completely black.
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when you put it on the stove top and it's having hot spots and it's wobbling and all of that, it's still not going to cook an egg.
Look how much I can move this handle up and down. That's a pretty good amount of wobble. Just compare it to this stainless steel pan. It doesn't budge. There's no movement at all. This pan it's it as it's warming up, it's getting more and more wobbly.
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This ruling may not be totally fair, but until it's fully resolved, there are plenty of other carbon steel pans that don't come with that level of uncertainty.
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The handle is all metal and that's a good thing. Some of them had other things on the handle. You you wanna be able to use this in the oven or on the stove top, and we like that this one has an all-metal handle. It's not super comfortable, but it's not bad. Some of the hands we tested had very awkward balance when you…
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so after that process that's what i used to do with other mattress skillets when they were new kind of ignored the newer directions went back to the old directions i think we are back on the rails we're off the rails i think we're back on so i got some color change on the pan it's very smooth nothing stuck to it this…
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Mad fur would be heavier and the handle wouldn't stay nearly as cool but it would probably stick less brown more evenly and it's also cheaper
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but if I have to buy another carbon steel pan it will likely be mad for
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the reason I don't use it for my Chelsea's because it's so small and heavy
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But you can get similar performance at a lower cost with a carbon steel skillet like Matfer or Made In.
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I am a big fan of of the mineral B pen they work extremely well but there's really no difference here you're splitting hairs
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now some people have a lot of trouble getting off because it's actually on there real good especially for this model pan
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and then i ended up getting a matford 12 inch skillet which was on sale at around 55 bucks so a few years ago their prices weren't too bad
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now let's try mad for okay let's wash it and inspect the damage it seems fine still black and smooth to be fair mad for pen is older but I barely use it
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I've been cooking with the pan for months and it's worked up a good seasoning
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this is my first ever carbon steel pen from matte fur that I've had for about five years
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Owned 5 years
i use mine one to two times a day it's always kept on the stove
these guys have gone a tiny little bit more blotchy than I'm used to but you know this doesn't really matter seeing the blotchiness is is not a big deal
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it takes time for the nonstick qualities to really build up and be effective enough to fry an egg and not have it stick
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the reason some people don't care, and supposedly chefs love this pan, is because almost all of the people who like it, or almost all chefs, are going to be cooking on a gas top stove.
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It's been used a couple of times. The rest of the time is just me trying different things of putting oil on it.
Matfer is appealing the decision and says the test conditions don't reflect real-world cooking. They also point out that their pans meet all EU and French safety standards and are safe when used as instructed.