I love Dubai also for mineral B you know I am heavily biased I will always tell people if this is a pan to buy without question uh one of the two Brands made of France I love them
De Buyer carbon steel pan vs Lodge carbon steel pan
The De Buyer carbon steel pan and the Lodge carbon steel pan, shown the same way from the same evidence rules. There is no verdict at the bottom. The axes below are separate measurements and the objections are listed in full for both.
De Buyer carbon steel pan
67 quoted claims about the De Buyer carbon steel pan from 8 voices.
Domain authority
7 recommenders, weighted by demonstrated expertise in carbon steel pans. Weighted by expertise in this category, never by audience size.
Independent consensus
7 independent voices across 12 sources. How many independent voices converge, unweighted.
Long-term ownership
1 dated ownership report, median 10 years. Volume and length of dated first-hand ownership reports.
Performance
33 performance claims. Claims about how well it does the job.
Value
7 claims about price relative to what it does. Claims about what it costs relative to what it does.
Repairability
no repairability claims yet. Claims about whether it can be maintained or rebuilt.
Community breadth
2 distinct communities. How many distinct communities converge, rather than one echo chamber.
Recency of evidence
most recent evidence from 2026. How recent the evidence is. Old evidence is not wrong, just older.
Objections raised
19 negative claims, mostly use case fit and durability. How much complaint is on the record. A high figure means the drawbacks have been stated and quoted, not that the thing is worse.
These are separate measurements, not components of a score. They are never added together, and there is no overall rating, because which of them matters depends on what you are buying the thing for. An axis that says no evidence means nobody has spoken about it, not that the answer is low.
These pans are forever pans. These will last your the rest of your life, your children's and your grandchildren's because I can testify to that since I own my grandmother's crepe pan.
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one of the things that I love about these pans is, I mean, these are steel. These are just a solid hunk of steel. This is what we used to make armor out of. So, you know, you can't destroy them. You don't have to use special soft implements. You can use steel um spatulas. Doesn't really matter cuz these will take…
de Buyer Mineral B Pro had the best heat retention of the group and a comfortable stainless steel handle.
Cites handle, heat retention
Mineral B Pro is heavy, but it retains heat the best.
Cites heat retention, weight (against)
I really enjoy using a high-end French made predominantly carbon steel pan and they come non-seasoned they are smooth to the finish and mostly I'm talking about Dubai and Matt fur these are pens in which I have not been able to find any equivalent
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- best in class Owns it
- appearance Owns it cites surface finish
So, these are a long-term investment.
Cites durability, price
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by comparison to say a multi-layer stainless steel pan, those go in the, you know, hundreds of dollars for a quality stainless steel with layering in it to distribute the heat. So that I find that they're a very good value proposition.
Um, and these just are at a a lower price point. They're about 30% lower price point.
a great value. And whatever you buy in this line is going to last you your whole life, your children's lives, whatever. It's a real great investment.
is sort of that perfect balance between value and a great pan.
de Buyer Mineral B Pro is heavier and heats slower than Strata, but it didn't warp, made minimal noise, and retained heat longer than any other carbon steel pan I tested.
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- supports performance Tested it cites heat retention, noise, surface finish
- supports durability Tested it cites warp resistance
- objects performance Tested it cites heating speed (against)
- objects handling Tested it cites weight (against)
de Buyer Blue carbon steel performs well on gas and electric, but because of its thin construction, it warped significantly on induction.
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- supports performance Tested it
Even before my warp test, the bottom was concave, but it got much worse after I heated it.
I would start with this guy right here this is an 11in deuer mineral B pro carbon steel this is an easy can't go wrong decision
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the buyer mineral B is my favorite pan so for those of you that want a straight up answer to which one I personally like more there you have it the video is over the mineral B wins
he decided to give the buyer a try and instantly understood what I meant even with the seasoning process I think
I think in my head I'm thinking this pan is going to work a lot like my favorite mineral B duboet pan
Because of this, you can't use this pan for roasting or broiling, and you can't season it in the oven.
Cites oven safe (against)
The De Buyer Blue Carbon Steel pan gives you great performance at a more reasonable price.
Cites price
Brands like Matfer Bourgeat, made in France since 1814, and De Buyer still forge their pans from a single sheet of steel with no coatings, no rivets, and no weak points.
Cites build quality
It's a solid, affordable option, but don't buy it if you have an induction cooktop because it warped in my induction tests.
Cites induction compatible (against)
It performed great in the egg test, and it's one of the best values.
Cites non-stick surface, price
they are a great pen. They're just like the Mineral Beast. Same carbon steel, same weight. The big difference being the stainless steel handle.
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you want to cook. And the Mineral B Pro, I would say if you can afford the extra money, I would go for it.
first off, all three of them, including the La Leon line, cook quite evenly. I was quite surprised.
Cites even heating, non-stick surface
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had achieved some browning, we were able to just pick them up and flip them over. Nothing stuck to the pan whatsoever. So that was impressive. Even with just an initial seasoning, they released absolutely beautiful.
And we did grilled cheese and spelt like cheese into the pans and, you know, sort of cooked on um cheddar and griier cheese just popped right off the pan, no problem.
So that's our impression of the overall choice of lineups in the Duboet carbon steel pans. They all cook absolutely beautifully.
They release food once it's once you've got a sear on. It releases perfectly. and they are an absolute joy to cook with.
you can get it hot very, very quickly, sear your meats or your fish or chicken, whatever it is you want to do, and then if you want to continue cooking or make a sauce or do something like that, you can reduce the heat and the temperature in the pan drops very quickly.
Cites even heating, heat control, heating speed, non-stick surface
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Um, but for just regular, you know, for what these are for, which is frying, they're absolutely excellent.
and wine reductions and all kinds of things in these pans and no problem whatsoever.
This being stainless steel can go into the oven. You can cook the whole dish in the oven.
Cites handle, maintenance, oven safe, versatility
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pans all at the same time. So that's a [clears throat] convenient uh convenient aspect of the Mineral B pro.
But it was absolutely no problem. I just took a little bit of oil on a on a rag, wiped it into the pan, heated the pan up on the stove again, got it smoking, and it came right back to a nice brown seasoned coat.
And that allows you to put these pans in the oven or under the broiler. If you want to finish, say you're cooking a filt of fish and you want to finish it under a broiler, you can stick these under there. No problem.
I like the versatility of being able to start thing on a something on a stove top and finish it in the oven without having to worry about the temperature or the time.
we really love them and we do most of our cooking in them.
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But if you want a thicker, heavier and quicker pan that retains heat well, go with de Buyer Mineral B Pro.
Cites heating speed, heat retention, weight
not like to buy air in the the mineral B that comes with a beeswax coating that comes off really easily and actually helps with the seasoning process process Matt fur was problematic
Cites coating, ease of cleaning
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of course you know I am a big fan of of the mineral B pen they work extremely well
very versatile pan it works on on gas cooktops electric cooktops induction cooktops and with this stainless steel handle also can go into the oven so very versatile there
Cites induction compatible, oven safe, stovetop compatibility, versatility, weight
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also a good Jack of all trade size big enough for a riye yet you can still do omelets and eggs in this guy as well this one at 11 in is still a manageable size for maneuverability right at 5 lbs for this guy
both pans have zero issues there's no warping although that has a lot to do more with improper use or user error the rivets are sturdy the handles are perfect with no signs of giving out and the seasoning has been great they really have treated me really really good for the last five ten years or so
Cites build quality, warp resistance
I have the 11 inch model which I find perfect for two people
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- supports use-case fit Owns it cites oven safe, size and capacity
- notes ownership Owns it
the buyer was going to be more of a personal everyday Pan
I've had no issues at all since I've done that and it works just like the mat for in the oven or the broiler now
with the the buyer I feel it's similar enough to cast iron that it's totally replaced cast iron for me
if I didn't own the buyer and only had the mat for I would still feel the need to own a cast iron pan but if it was the other way around the buyer would fill in that cast iron need for me
I've got an 11in mineral B duboet. Tremendous pan to compare.
Cites build quality
And thanks to its hollow design and heat-dispersing cutout, this handle stayed cooler than all the other ones I tested.
Cites ergonomics
when it comes to buying a pan within the price range if you could buy a French made pan for the same price then I wouldn't probably choose a lodge I would buy Dubai or buy my fur
Cites price
And I must say, I really like the sort of aesthetic and feel of the stainless steel handles. They have a really nice heft in the hand, and I love the little embossed bee, you know, sort of cast right into the handle. It's very pretty.
Cites handle
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the handle is lower. So the handle ends up being quite a bit lower on the Mineral B Pro. And she really appreciated that because she finds that the handles on the Mineral B are a little bit tall for her to try and reach and manipulate the [music] pan.
6 6 lb 1 oz. It It is definitely a heavy pen.
Cites handle (against), weight (against)
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it's also really pretty, I must say. And I love that it's got a pretty little bee um, uh, right on the handle.
Cites appearance, handle
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Um I love the look of this the uh Deboy uh Mineral B Pro. The stainless steel handle is really pretty.
emerged with a beautiful bronze coat on it that looked really pretty. It was extremely uniform and you know will continue to develop as you cook more and more on it.
And the one we use the most often is this sort of 12 1/2 in pan. Seems to cover a wide range
Cites availability, versatility
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widest range of sizes. These frying pans go from like a little 4 and 1/2 in individual egg or pancake pan, which is really cute, up to a big monster 14-in pan. Um, if you're cooking for a real crowd, which we have it, and we we do use it fairly often.
It feels like a cast iron pan but with a smoother surface and longer, cooler handle.
Cites handle, heat resistance
Then, they recommend adding what they describe as a "thin layer" of oil. However, their instructional video shows them using far more oil than I expected—probably close to a half cup.
Cites maintenance (against)
After the pan cooled, I wiped away all the oil and heated the pan again for 2 minutes to dry any remaining moisture. Sure enough, after cooling, the pan was sticky and gummy.
it's also really pricey it comes in at 90 dollars currently which is a heck of a lot more money than I paid for years ago at sixty five dollars
Cites price (against)
I love how this thing performs and it feels
Cites maintenance, weight
the the buyer was a lot easier to season for some reason in my opinion
that's where I personally stand that the buyer is heavier and it has some of that weight and density to it even now compared to the larger mat for 12 inch plus Pan
the buyers still really Hefty but it's still lighter than an equivalent cast iron pan with the same size
this pan can be used for anything it's completely oven safe and Broiler safe unlike the buyer mineral B with that stupid coating on the handle
Cites handle (against), oven safe (against)
the buyer does have cons and it's related to the mineral B model and the coated handle which limits its use in the oven to 400 degrees Fahrenheit at no more than 10 minutes or so
but up front I just have to say that both pans are amazing and you really can't go wrong with either or
de Buyer Blue Carbon Steel is thinner and lighter, so it doesn't hold heat as well, but it heats up fast.
Cites heating speed, heat retention (against), weight
It's heavy, and the seasoning doesn't adhere well to the slick surface at first, but it performed well across every test.
Cites seasoning durability (against), weight (against)
So we browned them and then delazed with shaing Chinese wine and that actually did peel some of the seasoning off of the mineral B pro.
Cites seasoning durability (against)
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Even this one still weighs in at 4 lb 13, almost 5 lb. So, they're definitely they're not a lightweight pen, the Mineral B.
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This coating on the handle means that they can only go into the oven at 400°
Cites handle (against), oven safe (against)
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Fahrenheit or less for about 10 minutes at maximum. Now, we put these in the oven fairly frequently cuz we'll finish off a steak or something like that. Um, but [music] they're not made for extensive oven use.
so it's not like the the buyer mineral B that I have seasoned in the oven but the epoxy handle you can get blistering in the oven too you need to be very very careful with that the mat for no problem
Cites handle (against), heat resistance (against)
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the coated handle it would be damaged by the high heat and length of time in an oven seasoning so you want to go with the oven safe Pro handle
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the regular series mineral bees have a coated strip style handle with a decorative Medallion uh very nice tactile feel to it and I think they look really nice
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I seasoned My Pan in the oven for about an hour and the coating on the handle actually just burnt off and the rubber B logo fell off
Cites coating durability (against)
Most carbon steel skillets have oven-safe handles, but some, like De Buyer Mineral B, have epoxy coated handles that are only safe in the oven for short periods.
Cites oven safe (against)
So I know how the dubay is going to work. I've cooked lots of crepes in it and I have a crepe pan specifically. I know how dubet does that.
Cites versatility
But as I said, much lighter than a um cast iron pan.
Cites weight
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These are 3 mm thick. The La Leon is I'll consult my notes so I get it right. 1.2 mm thick.
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It's the same pan as the Mineral B Pro. Same thickness of metal, uh, same carbon steel. It's all, you know, 100% iron, one per, sorry, 99% iron, 1% carbon. [snorts] Um, so they're identical in terms of cooking.
And this pan is essentially the exact same pan as the mineral B. The difference being it has a stainless steel handle.
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potentially rust cuz this is just a base [music] steel. So, we have to season it.
Cites maintenance (against), rust resistance (against)
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Now, all of the pans that we have are in the Mineral B line, which is their sort of mid-range line of carbon steel pans.
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And what can I say? We have a bunch of them. We use them all the time.
Now, the Mineral B Pro, um, they don't have as wide a range of pens as the main Mineral B line. Uh, they come from 8 to 12 1/2 in.
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11in Mineral B Pro is $115 and the 12 in La Leonese is $55.
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comes in at 95 at $95. So, the 11in Mineral B is $95.
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we are comparing it to a many old I don't know, probably had this for 10 years. uh 11in Dubai Mineral B.
Owned 10 years
Lodge carbon steel pan
14 quoted claims about the Lodge carbon steel pan from 3 voices.
Domain authority
3 recommenders, weighted by demonstrated expertise in carbon steel pans. Weighted by expertise in this category, never by audience size.
Independent consensus
3 independent voices across 3 sources. How many independent voices converge, unweighted.
Long-term ownership
no dated ownership reports yet. Volume and length of dated first-hand ownership reports.
Performance
6 performance claims. Claims about how well it does the job.
Value
2 claims about price relative to what it does. Claims about what it costs relative to what it does.
Repairability
no repairability claims yet. Claims about whether it can be maintained or rebuilt.
Community breadth
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Recency of evidence
most recent evidence from 2026. How recent the evidence is. Old evidence is not wrong, just older.
Objections raised
5 negative claims, mostly performance and durability. How much complaint is on the record. A high figure means the drawbacks have been stated and quoted, not that the thing is worse.
These are separate measurements, not components of a score. They are never added together, and there is no overall rating, because which of them matters depends on what you are buying the thing for. An axis that says no evidence means nobody has spoken about it, not that the answer is low.
I'm 100 convinced that this pan would perform over time I know the lodge coating it stands up very very very well and you can build a really good coating on it
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okay so a quick clean up there of that Lodge pan and it's in great shape so I would do a quick post seasoning of this uh and then ready to go the next time
they are what they are they are carbon steel a decent weight they are lodges traditional kind of candy coating uh vegetable based non-stick which works adequately fine to start with
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- handling Tested it cites handle, shape and form, weight
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so as I would expect with a lodge Pan the non-stick ability right out of the gate is awesome
they're actually moisture than the Oxo one moist moisture moisture um yeah I prefer them over the office
like I said the lodge is cooked just fine of course it's adequately cooked it's not overcooked it's not burnt um wonderful texture they're well done it's really nicely cooked food
this is a bit soggy compared to link the lodge has the outside more uh crunchy this is interesting
this is cooking nice and evenly nice and brown
you know fairly good stick release with very little oil um for a you know non-fatty food so you know the launch is doing its job really really well
it's working totally fine you know right now it's working better than the uh the mapper for its release you know now now things are working just fine with the Snapper everything's come off properly fine um one more time that's really worked out quite well too
like I was saying a little bit less heat in the map for maybe but the large and the Oxo in this experiment are both doing very well so there's nice even consistency across the board here
so I really like this pen it's actually worked out really well
um the pre-seasoning from the factory Works actually I like this better on a carbon steel pan than I do on their cast iron pan I find that it's even maybe more textured or sorry like a more smooth like more micro textured um it worked really really well so I would give it high marks
so hold the handles here the handle on the launch still quite good handle on the map for way too hot and of course silicone cover on the Oxo so that's not a problem but um yeah no I can't hold the mat for one anymore the lodge is totally fine which is super nice
uh it works really well I really love the long handle uh Lodge cast iron pans I dislike the short handle these guys have a nice long handle I really enjoy that
uh I think the shape of it is excellent the weight of it is balanced
The biggest thing you need to know about this pan is that it has the roughest texture of all the pans I tested.
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I'm uh I'm really happy with it and I promote it and I definitely will keep it in our stock
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I've cooked on this pan dozens of times and haven't had to re-season it, which isn't the case with other pans I've tested.
Cites seasoning durability
At $45, the Lodge 12-inch carbon steel skillet is the cheapest one I tested.
Cites price
When I first got it, it was the roughest carbon steel piece of cookware that I'd ever encountered in my life.
Cites surface finish (against)
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Cites price (against)
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and that's a personal preference if that's not what you're going for then the lodge has done a better job
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and the launch one here looks cooked but no Brownie and but you know does that matter at the end of the day
Cites browning visibility (against), flavour impact (against)
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let's start with I'll go from brown to lightest the lodge definitely has the lightest finish to it
okay then moving on to the lodge hmm they're not caramelized so they're not as tasty as the matte fur but they're well cooked they're they're totally fine
It also does seem to translate to more non-stick cooking performance and easier cleaning.
The result looked pretty good at first, but the seasoning was weak
Cites seasoning durability (against)
This is the same thing that happened to my initial burner seasoning on the Lodge carbon steel.
so I've actually had this pan for months and months and months and to be sitting in a pile of things I need to get around to and honestly I haven't been overly excited to do it
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but I don't know why I was I don't know why I just been staring at this pan for so long and not actually using it