put it on a burner 30 45 seconds evaporate that remaining moisture off of there so you don't get any rust
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About Carbon Steel Pans.
13 people across 22 sources, 63 claims in scope and 26 quotes shown below. 19 are objections.
Thirteen people across 22 sources argue about carbon steel pans here, and rust is what they keep returning to. Rust resistance runs 2 positive mentions against 5 negative, and acid resistance runs the same 2 against 5. Both complaints are about the seasoning rather than the metal under it, and the repair is not in dispute: repairability draws 5 positive mentions and no negative ones. Nobody on this page says how long they have owned a carbon steel pan, so nothing here is a record of how one ages.
5 claims behind this section
put it on a burner 30 45 seconds evaporate that remaining moisture off of there so you don't get any rust
Cites rust resistance (against)
Even then, if any small amount of rust happens, you can just wipe it away and continue to cook with the pan as usual.
Cites rust resistance
like cast iron, it rusts when it's bare. It requires seasoning or a process that bonds oil to the surface of the pan not only for protection, but also to start the pan on its journey to make it non-stick.
Cites dishwasher safe (against), rust resistance (against)
One thing you wanna note with carbon steel, you don't wanna put these pans in the dishwasher. The dishwasher will ruin the seasoning.
The good news is that this problem is easy to fix. Scrub the pan with steel wool until you can wipe it without the paper towel turning dark, then give it a quick seasoning.
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But even if that happens, you can always apply a new layer of seasoning.
you can see this pan has a nice non-stick layer started on it that will build over time. But you can do things in the normal path of cooking that will damage that non-stick surface. Really acidic things, for example, like tomato sauce, or white wine, or lemon juice. They can strip that coating back a little bit. This…
Cites acid resistance (against), seasoning durability (against), repairability
Seasoning is a process. It can take upwards of a year to fully season a pan, even if you use it frequently. And sometimes, the seasoning will look like you're taking one step forward and two steps back. It can look blotchy, and brown, and sad.
People disagree about carbon steel pans over rust, and specifically over whether rust is a fault in the pan or a chore that comes with it. Nobody here argues that carbon steel does not rust. Hannah, who tests cookware for America's Test Kitchen, says a bare carbon steel pan "rusts when it's bare" and has to be seasoned before it will do anything else. Rust resistance runs 2 positive mentions against 5 negative on this evidence, and the negatives all describe one mechanism: bare steel and water.
The defenders do not deny the mechanism. They price it. Uncle Scott, a self-funded reviewer who buys the pans he reviews, puts his back on the burner for 30 to 45 seconds after washing to drive off what is left. Chow House, who follows the r/carbonsteel community, says that when a little rust does appear "you can just wipe it away" and carry on cooking with the pan. Neither is contradicting Hannah.
Acid is the second front and it splits the same way, 2 positive mentions against 5 negative. Autodidactically Yours will not put tomatoes or vinegar in a carbon steel pan at all. Tom's Kitchen records that carbon steel carries the same weakness to acidic food as cast iron does. Hannah holds both halves at once: tomato sauce, white wine and lemon juice strip the coating back, and in her account that is easily put right. David, speaking on ACME Kitchen, is the one voice here who treats it as disqualifying, because he wants to deglaze a pan without thinking about the coating.
Prudent Reviews, a reviewer who tests large numbers of pans head to head, holds 10 of the 63 claims on this page and sits in the middle of it. Carbon steel "does live up to the hype", and the same review lists what is wrong with it.
10 claims behind this section
like cast iron, it rusts when it's bare. It requires seasoning or a process that bonds oil to the surface of the pan not only for protection, but also to start the pan on its journey to make it non-stick.
Cites dishwasher safe (against), rust resistance (against)
One thing you wanna note with carbon steel, you don't wanna put these pans in the dishwasher. The dishwasher will ruin the seasoning.
put it on a burner 30 45 seconds evaporate that remaining moisture off of there so you don't get any rust
Cites rust resistance (against)
Even then, if any small amount of rust happens, you can just wipe it away and continue to cook with the pan as usual.
Cites rust resistance
the very first thing we learned about carbon steel is that light cast iron it rusts if the metal is bare new pans have to be seasoned before you can start cooking
Cites rust resistance (against)
now this is obvious for anyone who's done any research on using a carbon steel pan you obviously do not want to put tomatoes or vinegar in the pan right
Cites acid resistance (against), seasoning durability (against)
another weird one raw spinach i did some research on it afterwards and apparently there is a acidic element in spin it raw spinach that strips the seasoning from the pan when you cook it in there
it also has the same weaknesses to acidic foods and needs to be seasoned just like cast iron
Cites acid resistance (against)
you can see this pan has a nice non-stick layer started on it that will build over time. But you can do things in the normal path of cooking that will damage that non-stick surface. Really acidic things, for example, like tomato sauce, or white wine, or lemon juice. They can strip that coating back a little bit. This…
Cites acid resistance (against), seasoning durability (against), repairability
Seasoning is a process. It can take upwards of a year to fully season a pan, even if you use it frequently. And sometimes, the seasoning will look like you're taking one step forward and two steps back. It can look blotchy, and brown, and sad.
but then I want to deglaze the pan I want to be able to use acids and I don't want to worry about you know stripping the coating on a a carbon steel pan Pan um and you know just an alternative to using versus like an enameled cast iron pan
Cites coating durability (against)
The bottom line is that carbon steel does live up to the hype but it’s not without flaws.
The good news is that this problem is easy to fix. Scrub the pan with steel wool until you can wipe it without the paper towel turning dark, then give it a quick seasoning.
Cites repairability
But even if that happens, you can always apply a new layer of seasoning.
22 of the 63 claims about carbon steel pans here are negative or mixed, and the largest group of them is about cooktops rather than about the pan. Cook Culture, a cookware retailer, says induction and carbon steel can be a problem and that owners complain about pans spinning on the plate. Chow House tells anyone on flat electric or induction to bring a carbon steel pan up to heat slowly or warp the metal, and then says a warped pan needs "a little hammer time" and no more. Uncle Scott found seasoning harder on an electric flat top, where the heat only arrives through the part of the pan that touches the surface.
Water is the second group, and it is one speaker. THE FOOD-DEE, who cooked in professional kitchens, warns against soaking a carbon steel pan even when the seasoning looks sound, because the water gets to the metal underneath. The same speaker tells anyone arriving from Teflon that a carbon steel pan is "not going to be super nonstick", which is the expectation complaint rather than a performance one.
Four of these complaints come from a 2015 test whose speaker this evidence does not name, and they have to stay unattributed: carbon steel skillets barely fit in the oven, some were unbalanced or had "slightly cramped cooking surfaces", a long-simmered tomato sauce stripped the seasoning off one, and a new pan rusted bare and had to be seasoned before anything could be cooked in it. Another unattributed claim puts the learning curve at the first five, six or seven cooks.
Prudent Reviews supplies the only complaint here about how carbon steel cooks: traditional carbon steel pans do not always brown evenly out at the edge.
12 claims behind this section
induction and carbon steel can be a bit problematic as most people have found out that have spinning pans or have seen a video where pans spin induction plates can be a problem I have already kind of proven that once in a video lots of people do complain about their pants becoming Spinners
Cites induction compatible (against), warp resistance (against)
okay so clean and cool cool zero spinning so that is great that cheap what I think is kind of crappy induction cooktop I have been able to make spinners out of other carbon steel with that cooktop um it does make spinners these guys didn't that's a tremendous result so super stoked
If you're using a flat electric or induction cooktop, make sure to heat up your pan slowly and gradually to avoid warping the metal.
Cites warp resistance (against)
But, if you do warp your pan, it's nothing a little hammer time won't fix. It's actually a pretty simple primitive fix.
Cites repairability
if you have an electric flattop stove it makes it more difficult to get your pan seasoned now i season my pan regularly when our gas stove top if you're cooking on a gas stove top the flame hits the bottom moves outward enough around the sides of the pan so you get a good even distribution of heat all over the pan…
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it is very important you don't soak your carbon steel pans to remove stuck on food they may be well coated but water will get to the metal and rush your pans if you leave it there so don't do that
Cites coating durability (against), rust resistance (against)
don't use a scouring pad when cleaning your carbon steel it will take off the seasoning if you scrub too hard
everyone assumes that carbon steel or cast iron pan is super nonstick it's just not the facts are you if you're coming from teflon to a carbon steel pan you're going to want to make sure you give it a good seasoning and set your expectations it's not going to be super nonstick
Cites non-stick surface (against)
everyone assumes that carbon steel or cast iron pan is super nonstick it's just not the facts are you if you're coming from teflon to a carbon steel pan you're going to want to make sure you give it a good seasoning and set your expectations it's not going to be super nonstick
they barely fit in the oven when we made tart to 10
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some of these pans felt unbalanced or had slightly cramped cooking surfaces
Cites shape and form (against), ergonomics (against), handle (against), size and capacity (against)
other ones had two high sides that made it awkward to get under food with a spatula or so low that liquids kind of threatened to Splash out
several had unusually long steeply angled handles that were a little bit awkward for shorter testers
the only drawback we could find was when we made skillet lasagna the long simmering tomato sauce stripped off our seasoning but we didn't notice any off flavors in the food and the patina came right back after a couple of rounds of heating and wiping the pan with oil on the stove top
Cites acid resistance (against)
the very first thing we learned about carbon steel is that light cast iron it rusts if the metal is bare new pans have to be seasoned before you can start cooking
Cites rust resistance (against)
there's a little bit of a learning curve and just be prepared the first five six seven times you cook in it you will be learning you might stick something you might need to touch up your seasoning
Cites even heating (against), learning curve (against)
if you cook on an electric flat top or an induction stove those cook tops heat more just where the pan touches the cooking the uh the surface of the stove top and for that reason the pans are heated only where they make contact you get nice seasoning on the cooking surface but you're not going to get that even…
And in real-world cooking, that evenness held up. When I cooked a full pan of chicken, the pieces around the edge browned just as evenly as the one in the center, which isn't always the case with cast iron or traditional carbon steel pans.
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If you cook acidic food often, that is the condition that decides this. Tomato sauce, wine and lemon juice strip the seasoning on carbon steel, and Hannah and David do not disagree about that happening. She treats putting it back as part of cooking; he did not want to think about it at all. Whichever of those two sentences describes you is the answer.
If you cook on a flat electric or induction top, three separate things on this page apply to you and none is a matter of taste. Chow House says heat the pan slowly or it warps. Cook Culture says a light pan can spin on an induction plate. Uncle Scott found the seasoning itself harder to build.
If you are coming off a coated pan, THE FOOD-DEE's warning about expectations is the one to read before buying rather than after. And if weight is your constraint, carbon steel takes 7 positive mentions on weight here and not one negative.
8 claims behind this section
you can see this pan has a nice non-stick layer started on it that will build over time. But you can do things in the normal path of cooking that will damage that non-stick surface. Really acidic things, for example, like tomato sauce, or white wine, or lemon juice. They can strip that coating back a little bit. This…
Cites acid resistance (against), seasoning durability (against), repairability
Seasoning is a process. It can take upwards of a year to fully season a pan, even if you use it frequently. And sometimes, the seasoning will look like you're taking one step forward and two steps back. It can look blotchy, and brown, and sad.
but then I want to deglaze the pan I want to be able to use acids and I don't want to worry about you know stripping the coating on a a carbon steel pan Pan um and you know just an alternative to using versus like an enameled cast iron pan
Cites coating durability (against)
If you're using a flat electric or induction cooktop, make sure to heat up your pan slowly and gradually to avoid warping the metal.
Cites warp resistance (against)
induction and carbon steel can be a bit problematic as most people have found out that have spinning pans or have seen a video where pans spin induction plates can be a problem I have already kind of proven that once in a video lots of people do complain about their pants becoming Spinners
Cites induction compatible (against), warp resistance (against)
okay so clean and cool cool zero spinning so that is great that cheap what I think is kind of crappy induction cooktop I have been able to make spinners out of other carbon steel with that cooktop um it does make spinners these guys didn't that's a tremendous result so super stoked
if you have an electric flattop stove it makes it more difficult to get your pan seasoned now i season my pan regularly when our gas stove top if you're cooking on a gas stove top the flame hits the bottom moves outward enough around the sides of the pan so you get a good even distribution of heat all over the pan…
Cites heat conduction (against)
everyone assumes that carbon steel or cast iron pan is super nonstick it's just not the facts are you if you're coming from teflon to a carbon steel pan you're going to want to make sure you give it a good seasoning and set your expectations it's not going to be super nonstick
Cites non-stick surface (against)
everyone assumes that carbon steel or cast iron pan is super nonstick it's just not the facts are you if you're coming from teflon to a carbon steel pan you're going to want to make sure you give it a good seasoning and set your expectations it's not going to be super nonstick
carbon steel pans are made thinner and significantly lighter than cast iron while still being incredibly durable.
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So a little maintenance upfront and a little bit of maintenance each time after you cook, that's the trade-off for an extremely durable pan that's naturally non-stick.
Cites durability, maintenance (against), non-stick surface
Nobody on this page says how long they have owned a carbon steel pan. The strongest durability claim here is THE FOOD-DEE's, that these pans outlast the people cooking on them and get handed down, and that is an expectation and not a record. Cook Culture describes a chef still using the pan he bought at the start of his career, without saying when that was.
Thirteen of the 63 claims have no named speaker at all, including the 2015 test that supplied four of the complaints above. Prudent Reviews alone holds 10 of the 63. No claim here names a particular pan, so this page cannot tell you which carbon steel pan to buy, and the only price anyone states was stated in 2015.
3 claims behind this section
these pans are built to last they will last your generation your kids generations you can pass them down to your great grandchildren and they'll still be around and still working great as long as you take care of them these things are meant to take a beating from my years of cooking we use cast iron pans and carbon…
Cites coating durability, durability, repairability
these pans are built to last they will last your generation your kids generations you can pass them down to your great grandchildren and they'll still be around and still working great as long as you take care of them these things are meant to take a beating from my years of cooking we use cast iron pans and carbon…
if you do for some reason scratch the coating off your pan and leave a big gouge in it don't worry it's not the end of the world all you need to do a little secret here all you need to do is cook with it that's it as you cook with it the oils are going to polymerize back to the pan and rebuild up that scratch piece…
your pan is rusted that's it it's over pans ruined throw it out get a new one no all you need to do is give it a good cleaning scrub all that rust off heat it up re-season your pan and continue cooking with it that's it hand recovered
He showed the guys at Maiden his original and most prized fry pan. So the his prized possession that he owns in his cookware collection is this amazing carbon steel pan that he picked up in the beginning of his career, but he still uses every day.
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carbon steel pans are surprisingly inexpensive most of these cost just $40 to $80
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